In this episode, Michael Dowden sits down with Andrew Roden to explore the dual nature of artificial intelligence in the security industry, highlighting its power to both automate defense and supercharge sophisticated attacks. While AI agents are now capable of discovering and exploiting software vulnerabilities autonomously, the human element, through social engineering and the patient manipulation of open-source trust, remains the most critical vulnerability in the modern supply chain. Ultimately, Andrew emphasizes that human instinct remains the best defense in an AI-driven world, as engineering mastery is required to filter out low-quality \"AI slop\" and secure critical infrastructure.